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Spiritual attacks – Demonology forum perspective

Forum perspective on the following thread:


It is at this point of self realization within how one has given value to states of energy possession as being real and special – that one is able to stop and apply self forgiveness for placing oneself into and as ‘energy experiences’ as the Mind interacts with itself as energy – to stop and get back into this physical reality.


To each person, and this I have experienced myself – their specific addiction is apparently unique to them – be it how they participate in relationship-love, their specific religion or the energy from an experience such as anger/resentment. It all comes from and exist as an energy entity you create and participate in as an energy entity that exists eventually around you, which beings interpret as ‘another being’.


I have walked through all of these experiences – demon possession and entity creations. I have also created entities after I for myself realised that demons no longer existed:  One night when i was sick I felt a friend of mine who is the DesteniProductions Portal – SunetteSpies – come to me and sit on my bed and talk to me. I was very sick and had been to hospital earlier that evening due to an infection that spread into my kidneys. I felt the bed sink where she sat and was sure that she had left her body and come to me. A few days later I asked her if she came to me, to cross-reference the experience and she says no – she looks at the moment and explains that I had created this moment with my mind – even down to me physically feeling that someone was sitting on the bed next to me. This I created with my mind because I feared dying and wanted someone to comfort me.


So to explain this physical experience in more detail: Have you had an experience while coming out of a dream where you feel like you are falling off a cliff or are falling of your bed? You physically experience yourself falling – and for a moment as you are being pulled out of sleep into wakefulness – fear rips through you – as you are convinced that you are falling – just to realise as you open your eyes that you are actually doing so in a  state of dreaming. These experiences feel physically real – and I am sure if one observes your life experiences you will see many such points where the mind shifts you into a dimension of itself in which you have ‘experiences’. These experiences  we give value to as having some paranormal or spiritual meaning. Before the demon dimensions were supported about 4 years ago, many such experiences were demons interacting with humans or pre-programmed events within the Unified Field. To understand what I have just explained I suggest watching the History of Mankind Series. I will add the link to the series at the end of this document.  This will assist you in having a background reference point with regards to the design of consciousness and the unified field.


Dimensional/Mind Shifts:


Within our pre-programmed design, we as who and what we have been pre-designed to be within this life time within ‘consciousness’ are combined factors from our design within the soul construct, together with the parental/DNA programming. These factors determine who we become for this life time – and you will find that each human has tendencies, abilities and personalities specific to themselves. This is not unique or spiritual in anyway -it is simply the ‘end product’ of you as your pre-design. Some people have been pre-designed to live specific lives and have specific abilities, while having for example health problems. Others have high intellect, physical health, but emotional insecurity. Some are good at what they do within their careers -and some people find it difficult to fit into the system designs of their world such as society or the money system. If you observe your own personalities and physical problems or strengths you will see that some traits are similar to what other people experience and some traits are even similar to your friends and families’ personality and physical/behavioral designs. Whatever the experience – all of who we are as the human is pre-designed as who each become within consciousness. Again to gain a  better understanding of this I suggest if you haven’t already – to watch the History of Mankind Series.


Continuing – each human is designed as part of the Universal Mind as Consciousness and how it interacts with itself as a functional system called ‘Consciousness’.  The Design of man was specific as each human become a mind consciousness system, dependent on thinking, feeling and emotions to generate energy for the mind to exist. Our greater purpose within consciousness was designed specifically – so that each human plays a role within – what was existed as the Soul Construct. The Soul Construct as mentioned in the history of mankind series played a role in how heaven functioned and how heaven directed beings on Earth for energy.


So – let us look at the design of people who have supernatural experiences: Having just mentioned the pre-programmed design of each human, let us take a look at people who experience mind shifts as the supernatural. As mentioned previously, the demon dimensions were assisted through the support of the dimensions and specific humans assisting within self awareness and self forgiveness, to no longer accept themselves as ‘demonic’.  In 1998 Anu decided to no longer have dimensional beings have access to humans, therefore it would no longer be necessary to have guides present when beings wanted to communicate with humans. Instead he inserted into the minds of psychics and channels – specific placements which were recorded messages that would ‘speak through the channel/medium/psychic. This way heaven as the masters could control what messages humanity received and thus would simplify ‘afterlife communication’ so that guides and angels would not have to accompany and direct any conversations that happened between the afterlife and humanity. That is why you will notice that all channeled messages have always been the same.


Here is a document which expands on this point:




Psychics/channels/mediums were none the wiser that they were no longer communicating with their guides/angels/masters/gurus.. Realize that ‘seeing’ as experienced by psychics/channels/mediums is but a mere projection from within the person’s mind – showing them a picture in the mind through what was referred to as ‘the minds eye’. I was also pre-programmed to see dimensional beings through the ‘minds eye’ or as some would call it ‘the third eye’ for seeing the spiritual realms – which worked according to the placement of a picture that a demon or guide or angel would place within the mind of the ‘seer’ which would then be projected by the mind of the ‘seer’ forward into the persons eyes – so that what is being seen by the channel/psychic/medium is a picture presentation of the room and the dimensional being in the room. Therefore the psychics/channels/mediums were always seeing through the mind according to what was being projected by the dimensional being/guide/demon into the ‘mind’s eye’.


Demons particularly enjoyed playing with the seeing of channels/psychics/mediums because they could project an image of themselves into the mind of the being according to how they would like to be seen. This I have also experienced – having a  demon show itself as a kind pretty Victorian ghost lady, innocently smiling at me and the next minute the demon shifts the picture and I am faced with a hideous black demonic form. I have had many frights and also many laughs, as I was being shown by my guide how he could play with Interdimensional seeing to illustrate how demons could direct the seeing of people.


So to continue to the human mind and its programming. The Soul construct as I explained previously (in conjunction with you watching the history of man series) – even consisted of those people who would see, as discussed ghosts/apparitions and the supernatural. This was part of the distraction and entertainment created to keep humans pre-occupied with the possibility of a god and there being more to the physical. This within the mind of the ‘experiencer’ causes the person to further separate themselves from the physical into the mind, into the picture and energy realities programmed specifically into the minds of humans. As I mentioned previously – not all humans were designed the same. Each human was pre-designed specifically according to who they were to become within the soul construct. Therefore not everyone was designed the same within ‘seeing’ the supernatural. Some humans, like myself were designed to become mediums/channels/psychics. Within the area of ‘the supernatural’ some humans were designed to experience mind/alternative realities, energies, UFO’s etc. These humans would constantly feel like they are within some ‘supernatural experience’ and through their life tend to become obsessed with some supernatural cause such as UFO watching, ghost hunting, astral traveling, healing, spirituality, meditation etc. In this the design functioned to keep humanity asking questions through collective observation and feeding of the entire construct of the supernatural – thus keeping humans trapped in the mind as ‘realities’ to further encourage the energy addition that goes with any form of mental realities. This has become so acceptable for us to live in our mind, that we have completely disregarded the physical reality to the point of the current state of the world. To the average human abuse and starvation for example are ‘believed’ to be beyond their control or beyond their direct responsibility – because each human is trapped within the mind as their own personal bubble. Therefore we do not see what we are actually allowing in this reality, because each one prefers the mind bubble we have created as our individual freedom, that we do not want to take responsibility for the world and the world systems that cause immense suffering so that the rest of us may eat and live, while participating and remaining in our mind realities.


Continuing – while the dimensional access to earth was shut off and later the demons assisted and removed from the earth dimension – humans through their own desire and pre-designing still continued experiencing ‘the supernatural’. Humans were still creating and reacting to events that were being experienced through mind projections and entity creations. I am not going to go into detail with regards to how humanity manifests events through the collective thoughts – as this is a vast topic which shows you the interconnectedness of the human mind and how this shapes through thinking our reality – thus creating continually events, which are then seen as being supernatural.


To stick to this topic of entity creations and the participation therein: people that have been designed  as a personality who experiences energy attacks/ magic/astral dimensions etc – I suggest to realise the following. Your pre-design has been to keep you within the mind and subject to how the mind interacts with you based on your pre-design. Therefore let us use the example of ‘but I felt someone touch my hair’. Prior to the demon dimensions being assisted and prior to the dimensional beings no longer having access to – demons and guides could interact with people through experiences such as ‘someone sitting on my bed,’ or ‘someone tugging at your hair’. What happens now and this I have experienced often, is the mind using imprints of previous moments projected into your experience now, based on what you should be experiencing according to your pre-design. Therefore if you are interacting with say for example someone who you believe is able to curse you with magic, and your fear is directing you within the background – then the mind as your pre-design to create this experience will take a previous moment where it felt like ‘someone tugging on your hair’ when you were a child for example – and will in one moment generate the sensation within your scalp of something tugging at the scalp, which in the mind is equated to the experience of ‘someone is tugging on my hair’. The thoughts within your mind will then take you to the most likely scenario – based on that which you believe could or is already happening to you – which in the case of someone looking for spiritual events – will think – ‘it could be a spirit’.. This is how the mind participates not only within your pre-programming creating any experience by simply generating physical feelings, but is also able to ‘provide more reasons for you to fear something – by having discussions with you as you. In the end you are compounding the experience by talking yourself into further belief about what is happening. All that the mind does is shift you from one mind set to another because you have already accepted yourself as a spiritual person which for example ‘can be affected by other people and their energy’. Therefore it is simple for the mind as it already shifts us from one state of being to the next every day. When one is happy and then shifts to sadness because you allowed an event/person to affect you – this is called the human experience and is accepted by all – but we call it ‘human nature’. This is simply the mind shifting you through energy from one polarity to the next. Thus one minute you are experiencing the energy of happy and the next you see or experiencing something, which you have pre-designed to have a negative value and energetically you shift to ‘feeling’ sad. You are reacting to your world and changing yourself to feel differently.


The same goes for the reason given that others can harm you with their words or with energy/magic. You are the one who is allowing yourself to belief that it is possible and using your mind to change the experience of yourself, based on what you believe and think the other is doing to do. The other person is not actually sending beams of love or energy or magic to you. The other person is playing a  role – such as pretending within their own mind to ‘use magic’ by generating energy within their mind through thinking which they then experience physically as ‘magic energy’. I have done this myself for many years when I use to be a Wiccan. ‘Raising energy’ consisted of me generating a physical response to an idea within my mind of energy. I would then look for clues in my world that my use of ‘magic’ was successful and would connect events that were playing out in my world to my ability to use magic. These events were yet again mostly pre-programmed within my world which corresponded with my belief in my spiritual abilities. Thus my pre-programming would always be fueled by the Unified Field, which was designed through gridlines to present life to me a certain way. Then when my magic would not work – it was seen by me as something I did not do right – simply put – the pre-programmed event was not in place for me to say ‘ ‘yes look my spells worked this time!’.


Therefore you change you according to what is happening inside you as the mind. Now realise the following – some will say to me ‘yes but I was not thinking about a ghost’ until I felt something tug my hair’ therefore how can you say I created it?’ The mind consists of the conscious, subconscious and unconscious levels – therefore what exists within you as the mind is multi layers of programming as fears, judgments, personalities, mind realities, future projections, ideas, past memories etc. Therefore in any given moment the mind is reacting to your world based on what happened in the past and what it fears or hopes will happen in the future. Your pre-design is already telling you that you are spiritual and that spiritual things happen to you. If that was not the case you would not be on this forum attempting to convince me that you are a spiritual soul and have had many spiritual experiences. See how your own pre-design is giving you feedback on itself and then using your own fears to explain your design? To specify: When you experience the tugging on your hair – let us say in relation to a time that the dimensions no longer had access to earth and the mind was closing in on itself and fully becoming the pre-design of each being:  let us say you now feel the tugging which is the mind having captured that feeling in time and re-creating it. The mind says ‘it must have been a ghost’, because

    1. You were already afraid that something was haunting you
    2. You were afraid of someone using magic against you
    3. You were transforming a fear of yourself and your world, into something you could name and something that aligned with your pre-design as ‘a spiritual person’.


Therefore, I suggest observe the following – what is it that we are doing on this forum – we are not playing games into the mind realities that each are already existent within. We are aligning ourselves back here into our physical bodies, by taking self responsibility for our pre-design and for that which we have already created as  ourselves as our personalities, based on our pre-design we have already accepted – as who we are. In doing this we identify how we designed our experiences and we take self responsibility, through self forgiveness and self correction.


Therefore we as the Desteni group who support people within this process of self honesty – always suggest to people – all-in-all  it does not matter whether your experiences falls in the realm of the dimensional beings or in the time when the dimensions were closed off and the pre-programming of each human took over. The point is that in both situations – we accepted the existence of demons and we allowed the mind to create realities for us to exist in based on our pre-programming. Once you realise that you are simply living in a mind reality, while completely disregarding your physical reality which exists as the abuse of life – then one is in a position to take self responsibility for your experiences, no matter how real, who was involved, whether there were demons, what energy you experience within  you or whom you believe in your world is able to harm you. You take self responsibility for the totality of yourself as the one who is experiencing ALL of this, as well as all the other factors involved, such as the other person. Why do we also then self forgive ourselves as the other person, as the pre-programming of the other person, as the soul construct and as the unified field – because in doing this we are standing one and equal to the total design of ourselves and then the total design of each other as we have all co-created the human mind as it is currently. If we do not self forgive each part of each human existent within ourselves, and simply judge or suppress the other person, which exists in you as for example ‘the abuser’ – then by suppressing, denying this within yourself you are completing the cycle of abuser/abused because you walk away in fear while the abuser exists as you within the totality of consciousness – and will simply keep manifesting in your world as new abusive experiences, because this is your design. By taking self responsibility for all aspects of the human, which exist in all of us whether you are aware of it or only aware of it ‘somewhat’ – either way – we stand as the self forgiveness for ourselves and all aspects of ourselves to stop the cycles of abuse we have accepted within ourselves and others. Therefore to look at the other and judge the other for being the abuser or the one that harms me ‘ -is self dishonesty – because the other human – who is also simply reacting to and being directed by their pre-design – is directing the experience at you – because of who you are – in the totality of your design – within the totality of all humans and everything we have ever accepted as ‘human nature.’


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‘Going to Church’ is consensual Demon Possession

This morning I drove past a church at the end of a service. People were streaming from the box shaped building back to their cars. The look I observed in their eyes could be perceived as that of spiritual contentment or even enlightenment. What the being had actually allowed while sitting in the church for two hours listening to the consistent drone of the minister – was consensual possession.

What you observe at first as you drive past the churchgoers is that they appear content, and that within the church they gained some form of insight, grounding, self-awareness. However if you look again at the persons eyes you will notice the following: their eyes are showing their level of information possession they just underwent within the church environment. To become religious and decide you want to belong to a religion in the first place indicates that one requires going to a place once a week where you will be told who you are and what you are here to do. You are informed of a higher purpose and a higher power watching over you, while your dark thoughts are explained away as being the cause of ‘worldly evil’. Throughout the sermon you have given permission to the institute of the church and the minister to fill your mind with information while you listen and allow yourself through a state of awareness as your belief to be possessed by and through this information. Going to church is a form of demon possession – where a religious person places themselves on a seat within a building where all the chairs are focused to the front of the building where the minister will speak from. The words are mostly empty and if one is self-honest you realise that the biblical stories of water being parted and men slaughtering each other means nothing to you. You cannot use it in your life and you most certainly are not able to change any of it. You are told from childhood to listen to these stories because apparently it is of great importance that you hear the words or else you will be condemned to hell.

Now during demon possession one will hear voices in your mind. These voices are often indicative of violent, malevolent ideas based in anger, self-content and hatred of others. To sit inside this ‘religious’ building where you are told stories of biblical history based on violence and war – is how one allows yourself to be filled with the thoughts of a demon called ‘the church’. There have been no actual improvements to man due to the church or any religion for that matter. If religion was valid it would no longer exist and man by now would have been a self honest, capable, self responsible being who considers the harm that is done to one another due to our collective actions and allowances in this world. If religion was valid it would have existed as a platform to educate people in how to stop any development of human nature (the spiritual nature of man) that is harmful. Instead you go to church and you listen to stories – thus invoking the voices of an old demon into your mind reminding you to conquer, separate, take what it yours and deny through the existence of class and religion all those who are not as fortunate as you.
The church exists as a training ground for the mind possessed where your perception of yourself and that of your family once you leave the church is that you have now done something really fantastic and that by listing to the words of the minister you have yet again for another week saved your soul from eternal damnation. The fact that you when you set your feet outside the church – back into the world where the money system causes immense suffering and contradicts the words of jesus as ‘do for others as you would do for yourself – is not considered. Ten steps from the church you return to the abuse, starvation, war, separation in the name of the ego of man.

So as you pass the church-goer on the street you see when you look into their eyes that they are now possessed with knowledge and information from the bible for another week. Most likely they will not live the words preached within the demonic training ground – they will remember most of it and when the opportunity presents itself they will tell others about how fantastic Christianity/religion is and repeat the words of the minister. This apparently makes for a strong spiritual person – one who is able to sit in the church-box for two hours, take in the words of the minister, go home and continue with their lives and at the most convenient times repeat to others what was said in the bible. So this is an example of mind possession as the church goer. You sit and stare at the minster while possessing yourself with his words because of your level of belief in the god which he represents.

Let us now compare the possession of a church goer to that of demonic possession by a supernatural being intent on taking over your mind and controlling your actions – as has been documented throughout history, and recognized by the church itself. When one becomes possessed by an actual demon you might at first start listening to the voice of the demon in your mind. He/she will explain things to you that make sense, things which you perceive to be common sense or even coming from within you or your guide/angel/god. In some cases the demon will then present your greatest fear to you while building a relationship of trust with you, convincing you that the voice itself will help you when your greatest fear arrives. Then the demon possesses the being’s mind because by now the being is listening to the voice while having their fears activated in the form of a physical possession. Now the being is thinking about their fears and usually these fears are coming from the subconscious and unconscious. The demon would simply amplify the emotions, thoughts, feeling and memories already existent within the being until the being believes the voice and is transfixed by the voice which speaks as the fear thus controlling the being. There is also a sense of trust within the person being possessed by a voice – because the person believes that their mind won’t lie to them.

Within the church the person listens to the minister as the voice that represents the all-knowing, while experiencing the fear contextualized from what the minister is saying. This the minister is impulsion through his words. You see religion and especially the church was well designed in its origin. At the start of Christianity and the church – The church wanted to control people into behaving specifically according to a code of conduct which would be at the center point of human development. The church became more powerful as it represented the only one who could:

1. communicate directly with the creator/god
2. absolve you from your evil deeds/sins
3. and ensure you a place in heaven – which is was proclaimed was where god as the creator lived.

No one knew what happened to you after death, therefore the number one question that came up within people was ‘what happens to me after death and how can I prevent my soul or that which remains of me to not be lost or dammed? Therefore the church was seen to be the steadfast governing body with regards to laying down the rules of human conduct. Philosophy and the belief in a god intertwined and man started seeking for reason and purpose through religion/belief/spirituality. In today’s time people still desire to be saved and feel like there is an answer to all their questions, while not pissing off the big guy in the sky. Therefore people will as intelligent as we claim to be –still sit in a church every Sunday starting at the minister allowing themselves to be possessed with knowledge and information. How does possession function generally in terms of the state of mind through which a being is controlled? Dimensional beings would actually exist within a person’s body however it was through the control of the mind that the demon was able to possess someone.

The church uses consensual possession to ensure that people remain trapped within hope. Therefore when you enter the church you allow yourself to be infused and inundated by ‘the holy spirit’. What is the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit is an energy created through belief based on an idea. It is your belief in the existence of a holy spirit which you possess yourself through before you sit down in the church. So when the church goer sits down they are already prepared mentally by feeling the energy called ‘the holy spirit’ which each person creates by themselves as a physical feeling generated by the mind.
That is why for most this varies – the religious ‘nut’ as some might call them – will completely allow this energy to fill them up as they generate the feeling to its fullest extent. One could call this the equivalent of allowing an orgasm to build up inside your body. The feeling of the holy spirit within you works on the same principle – you have an idea about your level of belief and where you are in your world which will allow you to go as deep into your religious belief as you are able to. For those who have to focus on work, activities or family care might not push this energy to its extreme. Those who proclaim themselves to be in love with god – will for example eat, breathe, live for god – and they will generate the feeling of his presence to the extent where their possession is extensive.

So continuing – the person in the church is now allowing for the religious information to evoke a sense of possession within them according to their religious conviction. Each one will allow the minister’s words to control and impress them to a certain degree. Some will take the minister’s words extremely seriously, analysing every word and arranging bible study groups just to dissect the bible. Some sitting in the church are merely there because this is all they know. They grew up being Christian and have come to accept that you don’t question your god or Christianity. They will utilise the words presented by the minister only as long as they don’t actually have to live it. Take for example a husband and wife sitting in the church. The husband likes watching porn while the wife experiences jealous thoughts towards any woman that looks at the husband.

None of the words spoken by the minister will make a difference to the actual living experience of the church goer. Some might even go as far as interpreting and filtering the word to fit into their life style. The husband that watches porn will tell you that god gave him his hormones and gave the porn star her beautiful breasts – therefore he gets to enjoy this. Surely the physical reality as it already exists is there for him to enjoy as god’s creation. The wife will explain that the sermon did cover some very valid points about not being jealous, however her husband is hers and therefore she gets to protect her marriage (which god gave to her) no matter what – which means she can kill other woman with mental daggers – and would expect the other woman to do the same in relation to her husband. It is human nature given to us by god. The contradiction between what really goes on inside people and what is professed through religion is not explained for what it is and therefore not real self honest solution can be presented and applied. No clever scientist or serious Christian – of which there are many – have been able to answer us as to why people accept and allow the exact opposite of what is written in the bible. All that is accepted at this stage is religious possession based on fear, hope, and desire for gods protection. The solution to demon-possession in any form – is self-honesty, self-forgiveness and self responsibility.

Youtube Comments: Mind Possessions and christianity

Youtube comment: Demons can only be relieved through the power of god; I know this because I feel him within me!

My perspective:

yes it is called mind possession, keeping you and the participant entertained and glorified in your ego’s – yet you’re not willing to let go off the same god that would allow such a freak show without actual solutions that support all equally so possession of the mind may stop – such as self forgiveness – which we have tested stops possession as the person stops it themselves – no words like GOD or JESUS required – therefore no possession to god energy required

Youtube comment:  ‘You need to get to know Jesus’

My response: 

what you’re not getting is that ‘I don’t have to know Jesus’ because I AM HERE. SELF-forgiveness is how I support me within self honesty and self direction. Any external attempt to guide self through a deity or belief (a belief is an idea that will never be in the physical as an actuality, but only remains a belief within the minds of humans) – is dishonest as it is not who I AM. Use common sense for a moment if you are able to string a sentence together that does not contain jesus or god or hope.